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piotr - Fwd: Bicycle absurdities "

Hello,

how many of Residents go to work by bicycle, which is the best means of communication anującej the current situation on the road, but it's a completely different story. To get to work I have to pass through the center of Żubardzia we reach the Zarzew. I was lucky with the recently along
al. Włókniarzy created bike path, but I think it was built without any of the action plan and project.

first shortcoming is primarily heterogeneous surface, once again paved with cobblestones. The person who designs a bicycle path and assumes that it will be made of cubes certainly never ridden a bicycle on it. On the paving stones on paths
cycle time, no longer spoke of specialists, so I will not develop the theme. I will only add to the long ride on the pavement, our body is exposed to harmful vibrations. Another shortcoming of

on our bike lanes are commuting to the property on paths wydzieleone curbs. Coming al. Textile workers go through several such entries, luckily about 10 cm curbs have been somewhat leveled with the road surface, but for the person moving
kolarką example, or transit through Dutch style is very unpleasant.

In closing, the last absurd to say, Traffic lights at intersections. We all see from where the bike path runs through the street with a separate governing signaling for cyclists.
Super. Most of them, unfortunately, is activated and the button is activated for a few seconds. While cyclists have lights up red light on the road parallel to the automobile is still green. The cyclist who dojeżda the lights, must stop, press the button, wait a while and, if luck is applicable to even the "green" and if you do not have to wait another few minutes.
I have to go every day about 10 km, if You'll get it in August the "green wave" journey to work takes about 5 minutes shorter.
wonder what is it whom? After all, you can program the lights so as to facilitate the passage to cyclists and not become an obstacle on the road.

But the greatest absurdity and at the same time a threat to cyclists is the ignorance and inattention of drivers who repeatedly fail to heed the cyclists, likely driving and blocking their way, they ride without imagination and park on cycle paths.

Yours
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mactrac - Fwd: Road biking in the street Strykowski

Under the contract, I am sending you a reply to UML that received, as only "breed" the answer is it will send it - if you have time and want to invite you for discussion with the officer. My first impression after przeczytanym list:

1) Iwona. R. Zatorska-Sytyk was not on the spot and the damage (I'm going on a vision of her to invite local),

2) characters are always where they should and always find reasons why it was just there (especially written from behind the desk and not on the ground ) ;-)


Yet I am pleasantly surprised that someone even deign to answer me though, "that among the many letters sent by the Lord = not found the e-mail correspondence regarding the case is on the street Strykowski "- these letters it really is about five-five, and as we see," escaped "the oldest of these (April). We'll see what happens next, I'll try to answer this week to this letter, and how I can handle it I'll try to take more pictures. - Matthew


following reply:

"ZDiT.RR 40120 - 326 / 2008 dated 13.10.2008, the boat

Mr. Matt ...
mactrac ...


Subject: Explain mounted on the street. Strykowski
road sign C-13 (End of the road cycling)


Referring to the contents of the letter the sent electronic mail on 4 October. for a set of street sign Strykowski politely explain that among the many letters sent by e-mail you do not find correspondence regarding the case is on the street Strykowski.

explain further:


first The sign referred to indicated by means of uploaded photos is one of the characters from the group order. So it is not a sign "the prohibition of riding a bicycle." Pursuant to the Regulation of the Minister Infrastructure and Internal Affairs and Administration dated 31 July 2002 on road signs and signals (Journal of 12.10. 2002, No. 170, item. 1393), the sign in question (shown on the attached by your picture) indicates the completion of a cycling route traced on the west side of the street, which is in the vicinity of the tram ends. Contrary to the statement contained in the list does not forbid it to continue riding a bicycle on a public road, but in this case the driver is obliged to adhere to the general provisions of the Highway Code and issued on the basis of the regulations.


second Completion of the road cycling conducted on the section from the street. Inflancka to the tram terminus at. Strykowski located on the west side of the street was caused by a lack of space for its continuation. In this case, the obstacle is the tram terminal to the platforms, private land, a narrow walkway with a width of 1.0 m. Situated in a further section of street. Strykowski


third In the area of \u200b\u200bthe tram road cycling has been transferred to the east as shown by the horizontal markings made using P-11 characters located in roads ul. Strykowski.


4th Due on: • Transfer

cycling route to the eastern side of the street Strykowski

• High security risk by going cycling along this street-size vehicles, introduced a "no cycling" sign ban on using B-9 (bike-entry ban set to sign an additional elsewhere). This prohibition in accordance with applicable law applies to roads which has been set, except where introduced any additional rules for the organization of movement. The mark was set at some distance from the road cycling, ie the place where the cyclist saw the sign (and therefore not possible to continue driving on the west side of the street, you should use the bicycle path traced it to the second conducting side of the street.

5th Summing up setting the mark referred to in the letter and indicated on the submitted photograph is factually and technically justified.


providing information on the above, thank you for your interest in cycling issues


Deputy Director
for investment and traffic management and Transport

Iwona. R. Zatorska-Sytyk

Attn: Mrs. Maria

Maciaszczyk

Director of Cabinet of the President of Lodz
gabinet.prezydenta @ uml.lodz.pl

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Malgosia - access to the center

Hi,

'm among the lucky ones , who can safely and pleasantly to get to the center of the housing
Retkinia.

Since he was put to use the path that connects the Retkinia and the center (around Centralu), switched to the bike and every dojezdzam it to work.

koleaznki My colleagues and work honestly jealous of me, and I shall be sorry that they must use public transportation (which often fails), or stand in traffic jams while driving their cars.

Is there a chance, I use all Lodzkie settlements (especially Dabrowa and Chojno) had the path to the city?


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piotr - Pozdrowerek!

Hi!

Maybe to something useful. It is true to work, I can not ride a bike, but after ...

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Becik - correspondence with ZDiT

Hi, I sent e-mails to
ZDiT on the bike path and in accordance with the wishes of Patricia W. am sending this mail ...

"Hello,
> It is impossible not to notice positive action to increase
ZDiT> the number of bike paths and improve the quality of those already
> exist. I think most of Residents feel the same to me, that they are
> very good efforts, your institution, to improve the image of the city
> and improve communication.
>
> As a user of these paths, let me see a problem.
> Well, the newly formed path along West Street on the section between
> Limanowskiego streets and Lutomiersk (closer to the street Limanowskiego) is
> very often blocked by parked cars on it.
> Installing poles at reasonable places
should be a good> solution.
> Sincerely yours, "


ZDiT replied:

Sir
see this problem, like other places in Lodz, where the cars blocking the road bike.
In this case, we wonder if more frequent inspections of the City Guard is not enough. If not, we will try another solution,

Sincerely
Slawomir Kazmierczak
Roads and Transport

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mactrac - It's me again ;-) time to UM recalled, ZDiT

No problem, the list of POIs will send it to the Lord. Continued work today, does not apply to cyclists is true (though a little too), but it is a description of something that I start call: <>:

"Hi. I have a question about the length of the green light at a pedestrian crossing, is defined in the rules must go if the green light for pedestrians crossing or determined experimentally or is a` priori (but then on what basis), the problem is passing through the street. Pilsudzkiego the Real-u (but not stop it crossing the entrance to the Real), where the duration of the pedestrian green is so short that a normal walking step, do not give advice to pass one road on a green band - Red turns to me right at the end of the transition. Last note this problem in various newly rebuilt intersections, the green is made for pedestrians and cars getting shorter and so they stand next to the red, by the way, it is meaningless to mount the buttons on the passage of excitation light as cars next to it (the transgressed the street) and so must be because move along the street has a green - these buttons work well on a separate crossing for pedestrians (no street along the corridors). I hope that this time the problem will be someone faster (because the previous reported problem I've got no answer). "
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mactrac - It's me again ;-) time to remind UM, ZDiT

Hello,

I am sending you a letter that I sent today to the City Council and which relates to matters raised by me on April 17 this year (a sign along the path from Strykowski which is still there - I start to ponder the idea of \u200b\u200bturning the mark, but that is samowolka and vandalism, but after nearly half urzędasy years can not even answer the letter is ...!):
April 17 this year I wrote to your mail, indicating the need to eliminate the meaningless character (non-cycling) standing at the cycle path along the ul.Strykowskiej (attached photo). Until today did not receive any response (not counting the automatic: It is a confirmation of delivery to the mail server, City Hall a message sent from an address (...) - that is, a letter arrived for you!). In addition, in late September / October I checked the person or character is standing still - unfortunately stands! How much time can take the officer responsible for roads and paths in this region
checking whether the mark is justified (remember that the path runs next to / and by passage through Strykowska - meaning that trade is now zero - it's like in the middle of the road just like that put a ban on traffic). How long does it take to have been decided to remove this mark, or if the character has any justification for a fitting reply to my letter, stating the reasons. The age of the Internet, cellular, faster decision-making by Member offices
fit rather to the nineteenth century, and by the way would be nice to know that the officials (paid with my taxes) deal with something useful because as yet I have a strange feeling that lots of classes -do not allow to deal with such a trivial matter-does not have much in common with the work.


Thank you and greetings


Ps. And by the way can someone who makes decisions about where and what signs to be placed or replaced with new ones would begin to comply with the rules - in Lodz is now plenty of places where the characters are standing "no movement" (such a white circle with red border) and should become " prohibitions of entry "(red circle with a white horizontal line) - these are not the same characters and have different meanings
then formally complain that drivers do not pay attention to signs such as what actions they are taught that the signs are placed" on piss off "and no sense."
I am pleased that the Lord's actions cause a reaction - I read with interest an account of the vision in the implementation of local officials: <<04.05.2008>>
luck in further work in the future, as time and opportunity I will try to podsyłać you pictures of clerical mishaps in the subject line the paths and not only (of course I or send them to the UM and ZDiT) - if you have an e-mail address of someone who is responsible for the path in Lodz is ask, I will then send straight to a good person. I know that this may be strange, but I slowly opponent bike paths (at least in their current implementation) - do not hate approach: anything better, just that it was - I prefer either good or not at all. ;-)
Ps.Oczywiście like meet some good examples of it also perpetuates them and will send
, and the occasion in a small town near Poznan
Wągrowiec met at the workplace phenomenal bike rack (the fact that
"wyrwikółko" but under the roof and within the company - sending pictures.



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Janusz - Parking facilities for bicycles

Hello ...

In the near future, I will be a commuter train to Lodz ...
So far I am not concerned about, I traveled by car ...

But now we change to the bike will be a rapid means of escape from the Factory in the direction of Mickiewicz ... Directions 1957 is meaningless because of the congestion Kilinskiego ... in other directions it is not better.

Everything is good except for one thing ... the possibility of leaving your bike on the Railway Station ...

Something such as bicycle parking (secure clock is not).
If I should be grateful for the information:) Also throw

idea ... may give up on this issue work ... so that the stations (Factory, Widzew, Kaliski) was a fenced area, so it can be fear, leave the bike for 24 hours, for a reasonable monthly fee. Benefited by this and commuters who commute to Lodz and the Lodz ... this is my impression

(Example from Zyrardow:
http://www.zyrardow.pl/index.php?strona=16&wiecej=1729 )

Yours sincerely
Janusz

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Michael - dangerous places on the path at al. Mickiewicz



accumulated hello to me a few thoughts about the bike path along the Mickiewicz al. It's more about two very dangerous places, especially in country in order towards the station Kaliski

a) in the vicinity of McDonald's in the ground are probably not high three broad pillars, designed to prevent climbing by car. The problem is that they are basically the same color as gray surface of the cube, and therefore not entered in particularly after dark is quite likely. The lighting in this place is like a good, but at the Kosciuszko jechaniu in the direction of these columns is Zeromski quite blend with the ground - indeed the best they check out. Now that there must be, may be enough to paint them into a shut-off the color, such as the yellow and black stripes

b) driving the same path a few yards away we get to Żeromski. Indication is true that on a button, but it is. The problem occurs at night, when the signaling is turned off, and priority is given to cars coming Żeromski. Going in that direction is not to cross the eastern branch being certain that Żeromskiego it's not going - the visibility is almost none (or maybe something happened there changed your last, because from the time when I rode this party in the night some time has passed since ever since I ride the other side of Mickiewicz, but hardly seems to me). Inclusion of the clock signal is probably not feasible, a solution can be set so that the mirror between the eastern and thread Żeromskiego Junction (from the side visibility is fine)

So much of a reflection on today

Yours

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mactrac - Bicycling along the path: slow, even slower ...

Hello.

Only now I read your statement the Ombudsman and come to the conclusion that the problems with bicycle paths (curbs, bends, pedestrians, etc.) are the result of such thinking:

"An equally important issue is the ability to correctly navigate a bicycle on the bike lanes. With this happen unless there is trouble?
- are. cyclists ignore the rule, for example, that the paths must ride the right side, and not the means. Do not apply to the provision that at the waist and should overtake on the left side, not a right. And yet the question of speed: overdoing it with her. Especially since the paths are often combined with sidewalks for pedestrians.

Are there any provisions regarding the speed limit the bike?

- No.

is how do you know that speed is too high?

- Code speaks of a safe speed.

So what?

- it difficult to determine. Safe speed must be adapted to the prevailing conditions. Is one that does not endanger other cyclists moving along the paths and pedestrian walks beside. "

So as a cyclist I have to move slowly and cautiously because it may do harm to someone - after all this nonsense. Are any road speed is limited only because it is next to the sidewalk? Maybe because the paths are made so casually because it is believed that cyclists ride slow? After the street I am able to easily (and without much effort) to go a constant speed within the limits of 30-35 km / h on the path can go up to 20-25 km / h (the last is tested in Cherry Hill - the path of glory but made: narrowing of the traffic ban bicycles, thresholds / curbs on cross streets, etc. it's better that it was not at all). It is makes the opponent start to build bike paths, as I have the slightest thing it will not be at all ;-) And by the way, riding next to the path I'm breaking the rules and mandate of a risk and going after such a path pseudorowerowej (like the one in Cherry Red) or I was breaking the rules (or I have to walk down the bike) and even the addition of going slower than normal (and / g you should spokesman even slower), so actually what is better? mandate for them the path they rode or drove the path of a mandate for ;-)? May reclassify the tracks from the "sidewalk" to "Road" Part of the way something changed? Good luck.
Ps. In the near future I am going to move again after Lodz śmieszkach and throw in some photos to the collection, by the way check whether the sign was taken down (ul.Strykowska) about which I wrote to the City Council at the moment-zero response to the mail. Regards.
-

Matt ...

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pan.chichot - Fw: Notes on the concept of a road bike for the period 2008-2020

Hi

As suggested by Patricia Wojtkiewicz, here 'you own comments and corrections to the idea presented in this site lodzrowerowa.pl ZDiT-u. For ZDiT-u send it too.

Witek ... (..., 30 years old, an avid cyclist - city, tourist and traveler)

Comments on the plan at the link:

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vemod Gazeta.pl - on the draft standards for the construction of bicycle paths in the Lodz ...

Hello,

until now I've found a moment to familiarize yourself with the project - the comments I have
essential, because the detail of the development of virtually
exhausts the subject. So do not refer the attached file with the proposed amendments
only quote a few excerpts below, which
significance to me is of paramount importance, adding any
minor comments:

1)
"In a situation where the bike path adjacent to the pedestrian walkway,
cycling road surface should be reduced by about 3-5 inches below the pavement level
and separated on the edge of the curb cut at an angle of about
30 degrees, which will enable secure raid at an acute angle
the sidewalk in an emergency situation. "

- very important that there is ALWAYS a clear and distinct separation
cycling route from the sidewalk for pedestrians - pedestrians have to treat it equally with
roadway for cars, rather than as part of the sidewalk for bajeru
captured with cubes of different colors - so far
the above, but the passage:

"The pedestrian traffic or what? limit is uniform
sidewalk and the road surface and the designation of the road cycling cycling
longitudinal horizontal line. "

- wyrzuciłbym completely because the criteria for adopting the "no eye can
assume that the" little pedestrian traffic "is actually more than 90% of cases
and unfortunately that's where pedestrians walking along the path for bicycles
sometimes the most troublesome (such as me - st.
Sikorski - most pedestrians have no idea that this is a red road bike
). In addition, generally agreeable to the least
terms like "such and such cases may be something there,"
since they are pushing the door open to the savings-gniotów
projects that I think will be used very often -
be manipulating the facts is impossible to prove an exceptional case where
virtually anywhere. In conclusion - definitely ALWAYS
bicycle path reduced the sidewalk, separated
curbs, bituminous pavement, always red (for the farther
) +, where it is sufficiently wide that separates the additional PAS
eg lawn.

2)
"Recommended cycling road surface color is red" - not
"recommended", but absolutely always strongly RED
not there exist any objection, besides economic, that there were cases where
SEGREGATED bicycle path is not marked
appropriate color. Here is true that the question of the possible arguments
ZDiT-u such that, as is to be absolutely black, it will
ankle and not asphalt, because the colored bitumen
terribly expensive - to think, do not insist.

3)
"Avoid the use of the excitation signal buttons, especially for the relationship
straight."

and:

"You should not use hand signals on the primary excitation towards the main road cycling. In such places should be applied automatically
detection of cyclists approaching the intersection.
buttons are only acceptable as a solution to support and
used to induce signaling when changing direction at the intersection
. "

- key issue is the most sensitive, both from the point of view
cyclists and pedestrians (sometimes longer on the forums appeared malignant
Suggestions to motorists also tell
push buttons before each intersection).
Once such solutions have been used only for pedestrian crossings (crossings for cyclists
) by a busy road in places far away from the nearest intersections
. Now, with the craze for signaling
"accommodative" buttons (both for pedestrians and cyclists) are slowly
standard on virtually all renovated or newly constructed
intersections. Their use results from the adoption of the dogma of the necessity
"akomodacyjności" signaling system
independently to each stream of traffic they can at the intersection of
occur in the absence of technical solutions (or
lack of knowledge about their existence and will of their application) to allow
detect pedestrians and cyclists as vehicles are detected. I believe that
should definitely put an end, and ultimately affect the way designers
reasoning intersections, so that phase for pedestrians and cyclists
ALWAYS opened with an open stage for parallel running
(niekolizyjnego) direction of the car - the total elimination of
buttons. This problem is of course much broader than
topics discussed here junctions solutions biking
anyway, I propose the inclusion of this issue in a more
firm, which directly imply that the buttons at intersections
should be ultimately eliminated.

4)
"It is permissible to move the road cycling on the opposite side of the road
only in the intersection with traffic lights.
should be to avoid such solutions, and possibly lead the way
cycling on the same side of the road car for its entire length
." - Also one of the most important requirements -
also propose to determine a minimum length of the segment, which would run along one side of such
2km - so in case you were crossing
distant from each other, eg a few hundred meters and a creative designer for each of them przerzucałby
bicycle path on the other side.
would be useful also suggested that the dual bicycle path, dotted on both sides of the street
, is most welcome everywhere only
is technically feasible. In such a case both ways, however, must be
bi-directional, so as not to force cyclists to travel to the nearest intersection
to turn back (to move to the other side
to drive in the desired direction) - It would be indeed an additional
favor of cycling relative
car on the road carriageways.

That's it - it's what I wrote is rather to rethink the issues, I could
because in their minds omitted some important details (
I did not have much time to it in a manner satisfactory to me to formulate).
But even if their inclusion will be a problem (because we do not have
no time for discussion before sending the draft to the City) is
according to what I wrote at the beginning, the project in its current form is
and so very good (for a detailed and exhaustive) and give it legal force would undoubtedly
breakthrough, especially as regards the boat - the clerical city of concrete
:) pozdrawiam


Chris




answer:

Hello,

2 hours. Your answer before the draft was sent to Councillor
Piatkowski.
taking into account the fact that this is only a draft, your comments after examining
will try to accommodate later ...

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vemod Gazeta.pl

Hello,

encouraged by the response to my post on the forum Lodz "communication"
gazeta.pl decided to contact with you on that in this response
draft standards similar to the Krakow and Wroclaw
. Sam I had in mind an outline of a similar idea, which probably
soon appeared on the forum said, after a long break, I visited, however
RowerowaLodz page and seeing how much relevant content
arrived there, I thought that this is a much better
place for further discussion. We are happy with the proposed zapoznałbym
by you cycling road construction standards, in response to sending their
observations and possible recommendations.

Radogoszcz live on the East and Cycling for me a
of the fundamental forms of leisure, but to move around the city
I use it rarely, because the degree of irritation which accompanies biking
of Lodz, in my case noticeably exceeds
felt the benefits of this form of movement
up. But seeing as along West Street and Zgierska
was formed first as a bicycle path was suggested by
RowerowąŁódź, finally starting to take on faith in the efficacy of
grassroots, social initiatives such as this.

greet Chris

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Ela - branches

bike lanes are very necessary and important to improve driving safety rowerzystów.bardzo important thing is the branches and bushes growing next to the curb and extending far over jezdnią.od few years trying to point this out ZDiT.skutek? A one-time share and there must be systematically applied wycinania.jadący bike dodge or go into the middle of the road without checking whether or not someone will get drogi.jaki may be final? know!

how to mobilize the relevant services on an ongoing basis WYCINAŁY BY THESE OBSTACLES?!

greet cyclists and not only ...

Janusz

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On your site I found photo of the access road to the mill in an awful state. Last I saw when I passed there (to my great surprise), poured asphalt. If you want tomorrow I can snap a photo and litter and suggests I put the old (old not delete).


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