vemod Gazeta.pl - on the draft standards for the construction of bicycle paths in the Lodz ... Hello,
until now I've found a moment to familiarize yourself with the project - the comments I have
essential, because the detail of the development of virtually
exhausts the subject. So do not refer the attached file with the proposed amendments
only quote a few excerpts below, which
significance to me is of paramount importance, adding any
minor comments:
1)
"In a situation where the bike path adjacent to the pedestrian walkway,
cycling road surface should be reduced by about 3-5 inches below the pavement level
and separated on the edge of the curb cut at an angle of about
30 degrees, which will enable secure raid at an acute angle
the sidewalk in an emergency situation. "
- very important that there is ALWAYS a clear and distinct separation
cycling route from the sidewalk for pedestrians - pedestrians have to treat it equally with
roadway for cars, rather than as part of the sidewalk for bajeru
captured with cubes of different colors - so far
the above, but the passage:
"The pedestrian traffic or what? limit is uniform
sidewalk and the road surface and the designation of the road cycling cycling
longitudinal horizontal line. "
- wyrzuciłbym completely because the criteria for adopting the "no eye can
assume that the" little pedestrian traffic "is actually more than 90% of cases
and unfortunately that's where pedestrians walking along the path for bicycles
sometimes the most troublesome (such as me - st.
Sikorski - most pedestrians have no idea that this is a red road bike
). In addition, generally agreeable to the least
terms like "such and such cases may be something there,"
since they are pushing the door open to the savings-gniotów
projects that I think will be used very often -
be manipulating the facts is impossible to prove an exceptional case where
virtually anywhere. In conclusion - definitely ALWAYS
bicycle path reduced the sidewalk, separated
curbs, bituminous pavement, always red (for the farther
) +, where it is sufficiently wide that separates the additional PAS
eg lawn.
2)
"Recommended cycling road surface color is red" - not
"recommended", but absolutely always strongly RED
not there exist any objection, besides economic, that there were cases where
SEGREGATED bicycle path is not marked
appropriate color. Here is true that the question of the possible arguments
ZDiT-u such that, as is to be absolutely black, it will
ankle and not asphalt, because the colored bitumen
terribly expensive - to think, do not insist.
3)
"Avoid the use of the excitation signal buttons, especially for the relationship
straight."
and:
"You should not use hand signals on the primary excitation towards the main road cycling. In such places should be applied automatically
detection of cyclists approaching the intersection.
buttons are only acceptable as a solution to support and
used to induce signaling when changing direction at the intersection
. "
- key issue is the most sensitive, both from the point of view
cyclists and pedestrians (sometimes longer on the forums appeared malignant
Suggestions to motorists also tell
push buttons before each intersection).
Once such solutions have been used only for pedestrian crossings (crossings for cyclists
) by a busy road in places far away from the nearest intersections
. Now, with the craze for signaling
"accommodative" buttons (both for pedestrians and cyclists) are slowly
standard on virtually all renovated or newly constructed
intersections. Their use results from the adoption of the dogma of the necessity
"akomodacyjności" signaling system
independently to each stream of traffic they can at the intersection of
occur in the absence of technical solutions (or
lack of knowledge about their existence and will of their application) to allow
detect pedestrians and cyclists as vehicles are detected. I believe that
should definitely put an end, and ultimately affect the way designers
reasoning intersections, so that phase for pedestrians and cyclists
ALWAYS opened with an open stage for parallel running
(niekolizyjnego) direction of the car - the total elimination of
buttons. This problem is of course much broader than
topics discussed here junctions solutions biking
anyway, I propose the inclusion of this issue in a more
firm, which directly imply that the buttons at intersections
should be ultimately eliminated.
4)
"It is permissible to move the road cycling on the opposite side of the road
only in the intersection with traffic lights.
should be to avoid such solutions, and possibly lead the way
cycling on the same side of the road car for its entire length
." - Also one of the most important requirements -
also propose to determine a minimum length of the segment, which would run along one side of such
2km - so in case you were crossing
distant from each other, eg a few hundred meters and a creative designer for each of them przerzucałby
bicycle path on the other side.
would be useful also suggested that the dual bicycle path, dotted on both sides of the street
, is most welcome everywhere only
is technically feasible. In such a case both ways, however, must be
bi-directional, so as not to force cyclists to travel to the nearest intersection
to turn back (to move to the other side
to drive in the desired direction) - It would be indeed an additional
favor of cycling relative
car on the road carriageways.
That's it - it's what I wrote is rather to rethink the issues, I could
because in their minds omitted some important details (
I did not have much time to it in a manner satisfactory to me to formulate).
But even if their inclusion will be a problem (because we do not have
no time for discussion before sending the draft to the City) is
according to what I wrote at the beginning, the project in its current form is
and so very good (for a detailed and exhaustive) and give it legal force would undoubtedly
breakthrough, especially as regards the boat - the clerical city of concrete
:) pozdrawiam
Chris
answer:
Hello, 2 hours. Your answer before the draft was sent to Councillor
Piatkowski.
taking into account the fact that this is only a draft, your comments after examining
will try to accommodate later ...
